n00b100: first, I respect your position and admire that you've studied Phish very heavily in a relatively short time. But I disagree that the Tahoe Tweezer was played at a high level over the whole jam. I don't want to bash it - it was great, I love it, and it's fantastic etc. etc. etc. However, I don't have the same admiration as you and others. So it's great, but I think others were better (and there were a few in 2012 that were waaay better) IMO. The first time it gets really interesting to me is around the 16 minute mark, particularly what Mike and Fish were doing. Prior to that it's a good jam, but didn't go anywhere particularly special. Let me emphasize that I love this jam around the 16 minute mark. Love it. But then it doesn't really go where it could from there and winds up fizzling and really floundering for a while around the 20 minute mark. It then goes into a really nice building segment around minute 22, but then goes into sort a simplistic call-and-response segment (the wooos) around 26, etc. Now, don't get me wrong - this is a live band, and for those at the show, this call-and-response must have been really really awesome and that's the most important thing. However, as a piece of music to stand the test of time, I don't think that whole call-and-response segment thrives. To put it differently, it was a 10 *in the moment* but maybe just a 6 *when listened to for posterity*. So, for my money the Crosseyed at PNC and the Energy> Jim> Carini at BGCA (and probably one or two others) were actually more quality jams. But taste is taste and I fully respect that what might resonate with one, might not resonate in the same way with others. I love that we can debate these things and still respect each other and share in our love of the music. We're really lucky to be having these debates in 2013, when it all could have gone away for good back in 2004.