@RobesPierre said:

@Festival9 said:

@RobesPierre said:

"all we did was create a page and suggest an idea." that's called advertising. you're idea was for people to buy your product, and thats fine, just stop acting like you're the messiah of msg. i dont think there were any amazing glowstick wars, that made the energy great at the best shows of 3.0 like utica or 10/30/11 or hartford 09... because everyone was paying attention to the music not the glowsticks which is why the energy was so great.

Every charity on earth advertises dude and most offer point of sale incentives and discounts. And I don't think the posting with instructions and how to contribute/participate in any way claims they are Messiahs. Pretty amazing the backlash someone is getting for trying to do something good.

first of all... they are not a charity. they are a for profit company who is going to donate 300 dollars of there profits to mockingbird. i think the donation is great but 300 dollars is virtually nothing. basically they bought advertising on phish.net.

and saying this, "The idea is that lights go down, glow sticks go up, the band walks out to the most emphatic crowd response and proceeds to just murder the show with a ferocity we've all been waiting for. This energy will carry through the entire run." is basically claiming they will be responsible for the run being amazing which in turn will give them even more advertising and popularity...

he's not getting backlash for trying to do something good. he's getting back lash for advertising his business as if its some amazing community thing thats going to make the phish community so much better and help the music be better as well... and he thinks he can get away with it cause hes donating 300 bucks...

i wouldn't exactly call one messageboard user whining on the internet "backlash" ... and keep in mind that all we are doing is setting up a page and letting people decide if they want to participate, and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

and $300 is just an amount we will contribute to mbird for THIS event, it doesn't have anything to do with the THOUSANDS of dollars we have contributed to them on a regular basis in the last 2 years.

but sure, hate on it if you want. and @TNTNeal, your whole argument about this event distracting from the show is moot, as it has been made abundantly clear that this is simply a fun activity BEFORE the music starts.

no more posts from me on this subject as it's upsetting that people can be so harsh over something so trivial that certainly has benefit to our company (i didn't realize making money was a crime) but undoubtedly has benefit to a great not-for-profit and would not be possible without the willing consent of thousands of fans.