Really this is still a relevant conversation? I started listening to Phish in 94 and saw them for the 1st time in 95...both bands are great for different reasons...phan culture of phish grew out of what deadheads started years earlier...but hands down deadheads were way more dedicated than phish phans...and i am a phish kid...touring, taping, tapers section, trading, mail order, etc. this was all originated by deadheads...the deadheads created the scene...hell, phish kids call it shakedown where our little market place exists...you don't see any phish references on dead tour...