No tricks, no arrangement, no ideas at all.

i think thats the key difference. they used to never play a song without doing something crazy. and pushing the envelope is why all of us love the band no doubt.

but the difference between emotions stemming from the visceral nature of an intense jam caused by the expression of individuals through the instruments themselves is a very very different thing than a song that on paper is created specifically to be an emotional song.

the creation of by the band and enjoyment of by the fan are not the same thing.